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tushanshu_ooc2013-11-05 05:51 pm
aloadeddie) wrote in tushanshu_ooc2013-11-05 05:51 pm
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break out the teal deers!
THE CR TL;DR MEME
HOW IT WORKS:
1. List your character(s)!
2. Others respond with "what does your character X think of my character Y?" or some variation.
3. Respond to them! Break out those teal deers!
4. Generate some discussion about your CR!
5. PROFIT!
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Tony is probably the person Bruce trusts most right now. It's not all puppies and sunshine-- he severely disagrees with his perspective on the Hulk, and it makes him disinclined to talk to him about it. But at the same time, it's a voice that Bruce really needs. No one else is willing to advocate as openly for the Hulk as Tony is, and since they are the same person, the implicit vocal acceptance is affecting to him. He can't admit it even to himself, but on a subconscious level, it's something he really needs to hear.
He's slowly, piece by piece, opening up slightly more and sort of testing the waters that it'll be well received. Part of what's enabling this is 1. that jumpstart from their experiences in Death, which was extremely significant to Bruce being more honest with him, but also 2. that Tony has relied on him so much himself. It's much easier for Bruce to trust someone if they expose some of their vulnerabilities in return. I wouldn't say he has a whole lot of faith in Tony's ability to keep himself together or make smart choices, lol, but he does have a lot of faith that they can rely on each other.
That's pretty critical for Bruce. It's a long, LONG, slow process for him to truly trust someone, but the payoff is huge, as we see in how comfortable he is around Betty. He's a completely different person around her. Tony obviously isn't nearly that far along, but Bruce has a big support system here and he's a key part of it.
I think the distinction about how Bruce sees Tony that may be unexpected or even unique is that he genuinely believes he's a good person. All his flaws aside, however much of a mess he is, he's gone through enormous personal difficulty in order to correct his mistakes, and Bruce obviously identifies with that hugely. A lot of their major issues parallel, and in this one, Tony gets a lot of respect from him. It makes it much easier to feel comfortable around him, and it's what's gotten those outward signs of approval he has shown.
... I STILL FEEL LIKE I TOUCHED THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG SO I GUESS THIS COUNTS AS SHORT FOR ME?? just take it
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I don't know what's more miraculous. That Tony's done good things and is being a positive part of Bruce's life, or that Bruce thinks he's a good person. He WANTS to be. But he's so convinced that he's not that he's kind of given that up as a pipe dream. And since Bruce's opinion of him actually matters, that's pretty awesome.
Tony gets that he's disinclined to talk about the Hulk, which is part of why he doesn't bring it up all that much. He kind of hovers around like a vulture, waiting for Bruce to mention him, and then he dives on it. Because it's okay to harp about it if Bruce brings it up, right? :|
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Bruce's standards of morality and "being a good person" are very much not the norm, which is probably what contributes here. He has a very... non-superficial understanding of it. What counts to him is the overall actions-- not the way someone treats themselves, not what they say or how they say it, but what they actually do. It's how he ends up so distasteful of authority (the military, SHIELD, governments, etc.) and bizarrely approving of Tony.
It's also why he judges himself so harshly because this standard applied to him makes him look pretty awful. WHOOPS.
I love the image of Tony hovering around like a vulture waiting for a chance to talk about the Hulk. XD