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[asoothingvoice]

MIIIIJOOOO.

Anyways.

Here on the turtle, there's definitely been some changes. For Bianca, it was much easier to set guidelines and rules to follow and keep everything moving back in El Paso- after all, at home it wasn't just her, but 'Berto, and the two of them talked when they could about what they should do, since when it comes to their family, they work as a team, and balance each other out. Of the two of them, I think 'Berto was more the one who set the rules, and Bianca's the enforcer.

For example, while Bianca'd've been concerned about Jaime keeping up his grades in school and not having to worry about working, that being as absolute as it was was definitely more on 'Berto's part. He was the one Jaime worked at, to try and work at the garage, not Bianca.

So here, she's totally unaccustomed to acting as a single mom. She's never had to do this before.

In canon, she's already realized that her son really is growing up, that he's more than capable of saving the world because he was raised right and is able to make the sort of choices that needs. She's gotten a dose of what his life as a superhero is like, because of the Reach attacking their home, and trying to go after her family.

That was months back, since by the time of her pull point to here, it's been enough for the house to be rebuilt, and things to settle back to normal.

And now here, she showed up, and found out that her son had been here for a couple months without her. Doing fine, even if he missed his family and his friends. Working. Waiting to help save the day with the other superheroes here.

This is more a final nail in the coffin of the idea that Jaime's still a kid, still really needs her or his father there constantly for him.

She might have given him a pep talk to help him feel better and remind him it's okay to be upset when he was upset because Traci disappeared, but at the same time she's aware that he's old enough now that he could've gotten told the same sort of thing by someone else he knows here and it would've helped too. While she was the one to talk to him about it, it didn't need to be her saying it.

It's the sort of thing that hurts but makes her very, very proud of him at the same time. She and 'Berto put so much into doing their best to raise their kids, even while sometimes second guessing whether what they were doing was the right choice because you can never be sure whether what you're doing to your kids is the best choice, spent a whole year missing their son because he just disappeared one day and gave him up for dead only for him to come back, and here, she's getting the chance to see that, when it comes to Jaime's future as a functional, independent adult, if his time in Keeliai before she got here is any indication, they did their job with their son, and it's going to be all the more telling in a couple years.

In short, this has translated to more than a few differences since her initial arrival.

While they might be living in the same suite, Jaime's under far fewer rules than he was in El Paso because she knows she can trust her son to be reasonable and act within limits, and because she has to. While he's still her son, and always will be, the circumstances here are so different from what they are at home that she can't force him to live under the same rules, especially when she's not as available to maintain them.

Because of this, she's working more at the clinic, even if it means getting home later than she did in El Paso, and sometimes leaving Jaime more to his own devices, when and if he doesn't join in at helping at the clinic.

She's trusting him to act maturely, not as just a teenager, but as a young adult, and more of an equal than a child that has to be protected. Here, while they're still mother and son, she's now aware that he's grown up enough that she doesn't need to be convinced into something as much as she was back home.

Basically, she was already proud of her son when they were in El Paso, she always has been, but now she's proud of the young man she raised who's looking like he's going to become a fantastic, and it's leading to him having more actual freedom and being treating as one, too.

Thiiis comment already hit well over 800 words so I'll get to Bianca on the Chew cast in another one.

super late but i still want to respond to this

[escarabajo]

[escarabajo]

Okay wow I was going to type out something much longer but you've already hit the big points that apply to both of them so.

Jaime and Bianca obviously have a very good relationship-- but because it's parent and child there's nearly always going to be that kind of generational/authority void somewhere in the middle that prevents a complete understanding of each other. Plus, Bianca is, like you said, the enforcer. Before he became the Blue Beetle, he was still judging some things that Bianca did as "arbitrary Mom hangups".

Since becoming Beetle, though, and especially since he's come to Keeliai, the gap is beginning to close a little bit. The more that Bianca acknowledges that he's growing up and becoming more capable, more self-sufficient and reliable, the more that he begins to actually see things from her perspective. It's like... the more responsibility that he ends up taking on, the more that he can actually see from the perspective of someone who is going to have that responsibility over him as a parent for the rest of her life. He's getting older, and he's beginning to understand more and more the kinds of choices that she's had to make to care for him, and for Milagro, and to support Alberto. The more that he sees this, the more that he respects his mother as a person entirely separate from being his mother. (Not that he didn't before! Just moreso now.) She's doing so much good work here all on her own, and he has had no idea that his mom could even handle a weird shift like this, but she can and wow she's probably doing better than HE is.

I'M FALLING ASLEEP AND I THINK THIS IS GETTING INCOHERENT but tl;dr-- even as he's beginning to see more sides of Bianca than just Mom, she's still very much his mom and always will be. And of course he wants to make his mother proud, as always.